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Post by dreamcatcherwolf on Apr 18, 2011 15:25:13 GMT
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Post by arthur on Apr 19, 2011 20:06:56 GMT
Hi I am pondering how stupid it would be to volunteer for something else but having taken part in the first one of these competitions I know the problems involved with the design. If I did volunteer to judge I would want to lay down a set of points on which they will be judged and the classes for which prizes would be awarded. I agree that 40cm was difficult to work with but when you looked at some of the most successful this time they were much smaller. If you go up to 50 cm the WHKF sled is just that and would be hard to beat. OK that's my DISCUSSION
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Post by arthur on Apr 19, 2011 20:08:30 GMT
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Post by dreamcatcherwolf on Apr 21, 2011 9:38:41 GMT
Now sorted, Arthur, thanks
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Post by dreamcatcherwolf on Apr 21, 2011 9:44:21 GMT
Hi I am pondering how stupid it would be to volunteer for something else but having taken part in the first one of these competitions I know the problems involved with the design. If I did volunteer to judge I would want to lay down a set of points on which they will be judged and the classes for which prizes would be awarded. That's seems fair enough to me, Arthur, so long as we can still keep it simple. It's just what I did, anyway. I would just become the Administrator, keeping the rules on my website, as now. I agree that 40cm was difficult to work with but when you looked at some of the most successful this time they were much smaller. If you go up to 50 cm the WHKF sled is just that and would be hard to beat. That's a target then, Arthur
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Post by arthur on Apr 25, 2011 8:56:54 GMT
Roy What categories did you have prizes for this time?
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Post by dreamcatcherwolf on Apr 26, 2011 18:58:15 GMT
Roy What categories did you have prizes for this time? Best made Best new design Prettiest Highest angle flight Best Sprint Best overall according to the email I sent Hayley and Roy, but WHO EVER volunteers, the choice is theirs.
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Post by dreamcatcherwolf on May 4, 2011 15:27:40 GMT
Following the DISCUSSION between Arthur and me, he has now volunteered to judge the competition at Jolly Up 9 - thanks Arthur - and we have agreed that rule 5 will now read The maximum length of the kite, measured at any one point, must be between than 48cm. and 52cm., about 18 7/8 inches and 20 1/2 inches for any imperialists, excluding tails. Any sticks used must not be longer than the maximum length of the kite and must run from front to back: no spreaders, or it wouldn’t be a sled.Note that there is now a minimum size as well as a maximum. The way that it is worded allows the Swallow-tailed sled to be within the rules when measured at it's longest point from front to back, and not between it's most forward point (the nose) and it's most rearward point (the swallow tails), as these are at two (or three) separate points. Also please note that sticks at angles ARE permitted (some designs do use that layout), PROVIDED that this is not a sneaky way of creating spreaders: Rules 1 and 9 ALWAYS apply! Full rules are at www.roy-martin.co.uk/SLEDJudging is likely to be along similar lines to SLED 1. Has anyone got any better ideas for sled design? Most at SLED 1 were existing designs, some pretty ancient in sled terms, and I really would like to see something better come along...
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Post by dreamcatcherwolf on Jun 7, 2011 15:34:41 GMT
! was asked elsewhere (Faceache) if someone could enter more than one kite There is nothing specifically in the rules to exclude it, but if a sprint is used as part of the judging, I'm looking forward to watching someone sprint against himself Please use this forum thread for all queries, so that everybody knows what is going on
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Post by arthur on Jun 10, 2011 9:19:25 GMT
NOTE Rule 2 states that the kite must be made by the flyer so you can't have some one else fly it for you. Flight characteristics will be taken in to account, which ones will depend on the weather at the time. (probably 2PM Sunday like last time) I shall want to see them all at the same kind so you will not be able to fly one then the other. Currently I am expecting to use height, flight angle and stability as the criteria.
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Post by arthur on Jun 10, 2011 9:35:18 GMT
By definition a kite must fly. Any kite that does not comply with the rules will be excluded
I am hoping to judge in 6 categories:- 1) Most innovative design 2) Best Flyer (see previous post) 3) Best made 4) Prettiest 5) Best overall 6) Best Bribe.
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Post by dreamcatcherwolf on Jun 10, 2011 19:16:53 GMT
By definition a kite must fly. Any kite that does not comply with the rules will be excluded I am hoping to judge in 6 categories:- 1) Most innovative design 2) Best Flyer (see previous post) 3) Best made 4) Prettiest 5) Best overall 6) Best Bribe. Like No 6 Arthur, but I can't get ANYTHING to compare with the un-casked malt you gave me for my birthday...
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Post by kitekrazy on Jun 15, 2011 11:59:41 GMT
This time I'll just enter cat 6 - Usual bottle of Wychwood Cider then!!!
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Post by norfolkdick on Jun 23, 2011 10:45:50 GMT
Greetings Kitists,
I have just had to make a hasty retreat from my local playing field to escape a thunder storm and torrential rain shower.
I have been test flying my winning Jolly Up 9 sled, I do not use the word winning lightly but I just cannot imagine any of the competition getting anywhere near the angle of 83.7 degrees that my little sled fly’s at, I did of course calculate that angle by the keenness of my eye and when confirmed with an optical/digital inclinometer it may prove to be nearer 84 degrees!
In terms of beauty I feel it should leave all others in the shade.
The sled took me a good part of yesterday afternoon to build; I was keen to make a start but Eric its designer (and good friend of mine) only got the plans to me late yesterday morning. I really would like to tell you more about it but fear some of my ‘friends’ will plagiarise the design.
What I can divulge is that for the sled to fly at its ultimate angle the tail has to be made from a precise length of video tape from a Phillips 2000 tape, ideally one that has recorded on it an early edition of Dallas. Eric explained to me that the reason so many sleds fail to fly well is the density of the video tape used for the tails; VHS is no good at all Betamax is a fair substitute but only Phillips 2000 will suffice for the perfect sled.
I do so hope many of you are building sleds for the Jolly Up, it just won’t be as much fun for me when I win unless the competition is fierce.
Best Regards Dick (Master Sled Builder)
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Post by DaveM on Jun 23, 2011 12:07:11 GMT
Many thanks Generous Dick, It is most kind of you to share your findings of the density and weight of the video tape tail. May I ask, would any edition of Debbie does Dallas work ?
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