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Post by surfski on Aug 18, 2010 8:15:34 GMT
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Post by dreamcatcherwolf on Aug 18, 2010 16:57:48 GMT
The only trouble is they quote size, not loading. Kites Up can get 150lb with a spring clip or 300lb with solid rings, and you can purchase individually. If you need a pic, Hayley sent me one, but I cant find it now, so must have deleted it Can't remember the price now, either Email them at roy@kitesup.co.uk
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Post by greenman on Aug 18, 2010 19:43:02 GMT
Or you could email Matzuo at
Customerservice@matzuo.com
They should have the answer for their own product
Cheers, Greenman
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Post by batchoy on Aug 19, 2010 6:21:55 GMT
I get my swivels from Sea Fishing Supplies, being in Gurnsey their stuff is VAT free, plus they give the weights. However some of their swivels seem to be misdescribed at the moment the as the imperial and metric weights don't tally
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Post by norfolkdick on Aug 19, 2010 6:58:36 GMT
Greetings Kite Flyers, I felt that it was about time that I posted something mildly helpful where the theme was not canine. Swivels:- First a slight word of warning regarding the purchase of ‘bargain swivels’ these rarely turn out to be so, I have purchased ball bearing swivels from e-bay and other dubious sources and they have turned out to be completely useless, they are cheap copies made in China in the main and grate and grind when under the slightest load, they are an excellent item for the mass production of counterfeit copies as you cannot see what’s inside them i.e. the ball race the most important bit! Ninety percent of all ball bearing swivels sold in Great Britain are copies. The original ball bearing swivels are Sampo and they are made in the USA, they are in a different league to all the others and that is why they are over twice the price! Some of the Japanese Sampo copies are quite good the Matzuo ones referred to by Surfski being among them. Ball bearing swivels when they are fitted with coastlocks or snaplocks (the wire clips on one end) are designed so that they are streamlined for travelling through the water with the tapered end of the swivel towards the link, this is the opposite to what you want for kite flying as it allows airbourne dust to enter the inside of the swivel and grind out the ball bearings, for this reason it is better to buy them without the links. Ball bearing swivels are made up to 500lbs and are fine for turbines and other revolving line junk. For large bols and anything else that exerts a huge pull you need a proper swivel made by the likes of Petzl with a sealed ball race designed to carry extreme loads in mountaineering. These are thirty odd pounds each! Here is a link to the Sampo web site which gives the sizes and breaking strains www.sampoinc.com/sampo_swivels.htmThis is the only UK company I could find that stocks Sampo swivels in larger sizes, they specialise in big game fishing and also have some interesting line, both Dacron and Dyneema in heavier breaking strains. www.rokmax.com/subcat.php?catid=80&name='Swivels' Best Regards Dick
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2010 9:08:59 GMT
Been there, bought rubbish and still have not found a suitable use for these tiny swivels! Bought off Ebay, from a seller in Ireland (I think?)
Good advice fellas, two years too late for me! I bought what I thought were big swivels....the pictures show the large ones the smaller ones I gave to Danny for his fighter kite experiments, they were minute ... under half inch in total length!
Dick once pointed out they were cooled in water when used for fishing, but furiously spinning line junk in air for hours was detrimental to the bearings / housing etc ..... makes sense to me.
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